Comments on: New feature: Mantras http://fortunafaveat.com/2008/05/30/new-feature-mantras/ may fortune favor us Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:28:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Patrick T. Lafferty http://fortunafaveat.com/2008/05/30/new-feature-mantras/comment-page-1/#comment-69 Patrick T. Lafferty Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:28:19 +0000 http://fortunafaveat.com/?p=153#comment-69 D, "patently false" will always be a loaded term and because of that, you have a point. If I wanted to be above reproach, I should have used the phrase all Americans know and love, "beyond a reasonable doubt". In that case, I would have said that even before the invasion of Iraq we (the federal gov't AND the informed public) knew beyond a reasonable doubt that there there were NO WMDs in Iraq. After all, that is the burden of proof in our judicial system and as the Supreme Court <a href="http://www.alternet.org/rights/88007/" title="Alternet" rel="nofollow">keeps pointing out</a>, even Bush isn't above the law. Thanks for the comment! Keep the conversation going and keep 'em coming! D,
“patently false” will always be a loaded term and because of that, you have a point. If I wanted to be above reproach, I should have used the phrase all Americans know and love, “beyond a reasonable doubt”. In that case, I would have said that even before the invasion of Iraq we (the federal gov’t AND the informed public) knew beyond a reasonable doubt that there there were NO WMDs in Iraq. After all, that is the burden of proof in our judicial system and as the Supreme Court keeps pointing out, even Bush isn’t above the law.

Thanks for the comment! Keep the conversation going and keep ‘em coming!

]]> By: D http://fortunafaveat.com/2008/05/30/new-feature-mantras/comment-page-1/#comment-66 D Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:01:30 +0000 http://fortunafaveat.com/?p=153#comment-66 Patio, Good post, however I respectfully challenge your claim of if "you have a man saying something that you know to be patently false..." I don't think in first couple days of the invasion that you could say there absolutely weren't any WMD's. Unfortunately, this was a truth that we've come to realize as true much later down the road. But to say that he was "patently false" three days into the invasion I believe is a rush to judgement. Patio,
Good post, however I respectfully challenge your claim of if “you have a man saying something that you know to be patently false…” I don’t think in first couple days of the invasion that you could say there absolutely weren’t any WMD’s. Unfortunately, this was a truth that we’ve come to realize as true much later down the road. But to say that he was “patently false” three days into the invasion I believe is a rush to judgement.

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